Engineering Students

March 8th, 2008 Roshan Posted in People |

For years I have endured the incessant grumbling of engineering students, and while I listened to them patiently, it always amazed me how little effort they put in, when necessary, to change their lot. To make it worse, an engineering student’s problems are almost always caused by someone else, either parents, their teachers, their college or incredibly, Anna University. Unsurprisingly, these same students will either not protest - in an organised fashion, or at all - or they will riot like a bunch of mindless bulls damaging the property of their college, yelling like those retarded political supporters, and losing any credibility they had.

Of course, it is also incredibly surprising that engineering students in general are like this, because the large majority of them fall into the following categories: (omitting those who actually wanted to do engineering, because if they did they got into either the IITs, NITs, or any other top institute)

  • Didn’t know what to do. Chose what friends did.
  • Didn’t know what to do. Parents chose.
  • Knew what to do. Chose what friends did anyway.
  • Knew what to do. Couldn’t tell parents.
  • Knew what to do. Overridden by parents.

Of these, those who didn’t know what to do have little right to complain. If they had the balls to do anything more than complain, they’d have dropped out as soon as they knew they didn’t want that course. Oh, but of course, the multi-lakh fee necessary wouldn’t make that possible. Sorry, but that is such incredible lack of sense I do not know where to begin. Lock yourself in, then complain. I could almost laugh if it wasn’t so pathetic.

Those who knew what to do but either chose to do what their friends did or couldn’t tell their parents they wanted to are a sad lot, because they are unable to express what they want in a coherent manner. It is unlikely these would complain, unless part of a larger group of complaining engineers, because they’d be unable to make a statement outside a crowd. Other people call these people cowards. I don’t, I think they’re remarkable aware of the truth, that it is their own fault.

The largest group of grumblers, however, is the group of engineers whose choice wasn’t their own, but their parents. In every case but two, I have noticed that these are people who are incapable of leaving their comfort zone. They would rather live a life of suffering, grumbling every now and then, than sacrifice temporary lack of discomfort for a hope of later joy. If our independence movement had had leaders like these people, then it wouldn’t have been an independence movement. However, they are the most creative of the lot, and consequently, the most interesting. They will blame everything, I’ve heard of:

  • Evil Parents - Okay, this is obvious. It is in the list for the sake of completeness.
  • The Education System - Ooh, nice try. We all know the system sucks, but there are loads of us who got through unscathed, a hundred thousand counter-examples if you wish.
  • Society - Wait, what?! This one is hilarious, society forced them to become engineers. They wanted to be pilots, artists, philosophers but when society didn’t like that they caved in like a Chinese coal mine.
  • Parents - Yes, again! Because that’s what it comes down to, a weak attempt at rebellion, like a blog post about how “there will be revolution in the United States if they infringe on our freedom!” which is followed up with no such revolution. Talk is cheap, kids.

Since parents figure in the list twice, I thought it fair to talk a little more about them. With such draconian parents, people unwilling to accept that their children must be latent geniuses at something other than engineering, these people must be having a hard time going home and handing in their semester mark sheets showing a few miscellaneous arrears. Strangely, they don’t. They also don’t have any trouble bunking the occasional class, waking up at 2 in the afternoon, playing video games all the time or watching TV for long periods of time. So their parents aren’t foaming-at-the-mouth disciplinarians, or ex-army colonels, so it’s obvious where the problem is. Yes, brilliant! You guessed it, it’s not your brother, it’s not your sister, it’s you! Congratulations! Please come up to the podium.

Jesus, show some backbone. Whiners.

17 Responses to “Engineering Students”

  1. Maybe you should restate the post with references to Anna University and Sathyabama.

    Another thing, a few classmates of mine actually picked engineering of their own free will. I’ve never really understood that.

  2. I lost interest half way through writing it. Maybe they liked it, emphasis on the past tense. Or maybe they’re Category I.

  3. It’s not right to always generalise. I don’t fall under any of the broad categories here. :) (I never have) Also, there are some decent engineering colleges affiliated to AU too. Take SSN or SVCE for instance. It’s not necessary that one has to be in NITs and IITs. (Rumour has it that IIT engineers are no better these days. More arrogant and all, yes.Otherwise, no)

    There are people like me, who are genuinely interested in engineering and get the grasp of it. But then I ended up in the wrong place because (a) I was/still am a lazy bum. (b) The bloody herd behaviour. If these uninterested people in better colleges hadn’t picked engg, id be there you see. ;)

    And even engineering under AU is not all that bad provided the person takes interest in what he/she is doing.

  4. You know what I would have loved, you saying, “It’s never right to generalise.” Alas, such little joys are denied us.

    Ah, you’re still interested in what you’re doing? Since you are negligible with respect to an army of grumblers, we will pretend you don’t exist.

    See, I mentioned the NITs and IITs because people there don’t grumble all the time, in my experience. Sure, there may be other colleges too. SSN, in particular, is supposed to be really good. Two of my schoolmates there tell me they have fewer classes than even me. Lucky fellows.

  5. You have Marc spreading his propaganda ;) and lots of other people are now believers and spreading the same. Hence the grumbling.

  6. Truly, at first I enjoyed gloating. Now it’s like incessant background buzz.

  7. Still composing a response. Medium priority background process in my mind. Expect it to be brilliant.

  8. I am sure you guys (the non-engineering blokes) have problems too. Maybe your way of solving them is to go to the canteen and have a laugh about it. (I am actually interested in the solutions you come up with when faced with problems.)

    As for engineers being whiners, (or was it just the complaining engineers) we are damn good at what we do (I don’t include people who exhibit herd behaviour in this list) and just as good as other things that other (non-engineering) people do as a course and for a living.

    Awaiting Marc’s response.

  9. as good at*

  10. Oh, we have loads of problems too. Rarely they get solved, often they aren’t. Solutions depend upon the problem, you see. Some wars can’t be won. We prioritise and execute, and if it doesn’t work out, we relax, nothing can be done.

    There’s a lot of noise from the engineers, a lot of talk, but no work. That’s what makes it funny.

    Of course you’re just as good as us, if not better. Maybe it’s the air you breathe in engineering colleges that makes you complain so much. Some of the best musicians, actors and dancers stud(y|ied) in engineering colleges.

    I’d like to see Marc’s response too. He actually did get involved a bit, if I recall correctly. Something about a symposium or two.

  11. Well, what is Marc’s response? What was he complaining about on symposiums?

  12. Marc’s response is silence. It’s an art form. I meant he was actually involved in organising something and all in his college, so he did put in some work.

  13. I found the time now and here’s the response:

    http://marcvz.net/blog/2008/03/31/all-your-base-are-belong-to-college/

  14. There are really good colleges like SSN , SVCE.
    i Myself have been amazed at the positions held by the students who studied there. many are at an unimaginably top positions. only problem in Annauniveristy mindless syllabus

  15. ts

  16. Vinod Pillai Says:

    I was just going through your blog and one thing I realised is that you couldn’t be further away from the truth. I am NIT student ( the ones who you claim don’t complain very much).
    On the contrary, the engineers here enjoy cribbing about everything under the sun just as much as everyone else or are indifferent and don’t give a damn. We may be better off than engineers in some lower rung institutes, but try telling that to my friends.
    Honestly, all you have done is summerised how most Indian’s ( not just the “free thinking” ones from the south) make a choice when it comes to their future ( and how they regret later on).
    (p.s.: Interesting blog)

  17. The ones I know don’t. Maybe it’s because they don’t want me to gloat, because I would :) You guys have it pretty okay, I’d say.

    You’re probably right, this was written at a different time when I cared.

    Thanks.

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